RE: [tequila/sls] comments on SLS scope

From: denis.mccarthy@broadcom.ie
Date: Fri Mar 23 2001 - 16:05:47 CET

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    See also
    http://www.dmtf.org/download/spec/xmls/CIM_XML_Mapping20.htm
    for XML specific mapping of CIM

    regards,
    Denis

    |-----Original Message-----
    |From: Marcus Brunner [mailto:brunner@ccrle.nec.de]
    |Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:14 PM
    |To: sls@ist-tequila.org
    |Subject: Re: [tequila/sls] comments on SLS scope
    |
    |
    |See http://www.dmtf.org/download/spec/xmls/CIM_HTTP_Mapping10.htm
    |Marcus
    |
    |Raju Rajan wrote:
    |>
    |> On the CIM to XML mapping is there any standard way of doing this? I
    |> apologize for my ignorance, but certainly do not want us to
    |get embroiled
    |> in a mapping controversy ;)
    |>
    |> Naturally, I agree with the rest of Marcus' comments (except the LDAP
    |> extension about which I'm ambivalent.)
    |>
    |> raju
    |>
    |> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Marcus Brunner wrote:
    |>
    |> > Yves,
    |> >
    |> > comments inline
    |> >
    |> > Yves T'Joens wrote:
    |> > [...]
    |> >
    |> > > Include in the charter an explicit requirements
    |collection and agreement
    |> > > phase, so that we make certain everybody knows exactly
    |what we are
    |> > > talking about, and the noses are in the same direction.
    |> > >
    |> >
    |> > I support that, and it is common IETF practice.
    |> >
    |> > [...]
    |> >
    |> > > Try to split technology independent information from technology
    |> > > dependent
    |> > > information such as to increase the possibility of later
    |reuse of the
    |> > > framework in other contexts. (e.g., optical SLS)
    |> > >
    |> >
    |> > This is a dangerous comment, because we loose focus, and the
    |> > generalization of the work may be one later. (As an
    |engineer I fully
    |> > support the independence)
    |> >
    |> > > Some of the early confusion on terminology stems from
    |the fact that
    |> > > subscription and negotiation are intermixed. So i would
    |suggest that the
    |> > > baseline framework ONLY discusses invocation as
    |described in the present
    |> > > document (that is to say, the notion of subscription
    |would go into the
    |> > > particular sections of earlier work, i.e., I2 and Tequila)
    |> > >
    |> >
    |> > Good idea, stay as simple as possible at the fist place,
    |may add other
    |> > things later, if there is enough interest in the community.
    |> >
    |> > [...]
    |> > > e2e versus edge to edge : the present architecture is focussed on
    |> > > providing edge to edge services. So maybe lets make this
    |explicit. The
    |> > > e2e service as known as host to host, is an artefact of
    |this model, when
    |> > > ingress and egress links denote/imply 32bit addresses.
    |> >
    |> > It needs to be explicitly said, and the difference to PDBs
    |needs to be
    |> > described.
    |> >
    |> > > include both customer/provider and provider/provider
    |transport service
    |> > > negotiation (in so far differences can be expected)
    |> > >
    |> > > use CIM for the information model, to optimize reuse of
    |ongoing work in
    |> > > the policy framework group. Then limit the scope of the
    |group to define
    |> > > XML and negotiation over http, including semantics of the message
    |> > > exchanges.
    |> >
    |> > actually it is not about limiting the scope, but it is
    |about mapping the
    |> > CIM model to XML. I personnaly would like to add the LDAP
    |mapping as
    |> > well. But lets focus on what we have.
    |> >
    |> > > can we find consensus on this ?
    |> > >
    |> > > cheers,
    |> > > Yves
    |> >
    |> > --
    |> >
    |> > Dr. Marcus Brunner
    |> > C&C Research Laboratories
    |> > NEC Europe Ltd.
    |> >
    |> > E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de
    |> > WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/
    |> > personal home page: http://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/~brunner
    |> >
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    |> > Germany
    |> >
    |> > Phone: +49 (0)6221/ 9051129
    |> > Fax: +49 (0)6221/ 9051155
    |> >
    |
    |--
    |
    |Dr. Marcus Brunner
    |C&C Research Laboratories
    |NEC Europe Ltd.
    |
    |E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de
    |WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/
    |personal home page: http://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/~brunner
    |
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    |
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