RE: Issues for the BoF

From: Richard.Egan (Richard.Egan@rrl.co.uk)
Date: Fri Dec 08 2000 - 14:58:14 CET

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    Yves, Raju,

    I have attached below some comments from Mike Ainger (General Manager, Core
    Network Design & Planning at Global Crossing UK) to your questionnaire,
    indicating GC's continued interest in the SLS work.

    Good luck with the BOF.

    Best Regards

    Richard

    ==============================================================
    Question 1:

    Is there a need to standardize the syntax and semantics of QoS
    Service Level negotiation on the following interfaces.
    - intra-domain interfaces (typical example would be a softswitch interface
    towards the network management platform for automatic sizing of trunks
    between voice gateways)?
    - inter-domain interfaces for the customer-provider relationship (typical
    example would be allowing an automated VPN configuration be flexible managed
    by the customer on the provider domain) ?
    - inter-domain QoS provisioning for the provider-provider relationship
    (typical example would be to extend the above over multiple IP service
    providers)

    Q1 Response:

    Global Crossing views the standardisation of the Customer-Provider interface
    as the most immediately relevant to its business. The standardisation of SLS
    parameters would enable means of automatic SLS negotiation between Customer
    & Service Provider and would be useful in dynamic QoS provisioning of the
    provider's network. Standardising the Provider-Provider relationship would
    follow naturally as QoS services are offered on an inter-domain basis. The
    intra-domain interface is new to us but would have obvious benefit if a
    provider had developed engineering/management tools for provisioning QoS in
    the network.

    Question 2 :

    Do you see any use for it in the timeframe that a working group
    would deliver (Feb 2002)? The alternative is to leave it to each vendor to
    reach agreements with their customers, or to postpone work on this to a
    later date after 2002.

    Q2 Response:

    Standardisation of the Customer-Provider interface would be of benefit in
    this timeframe for embryonic QoS based services. The alternative of each
    provider developing proprietary solutions is undesirable as it inhibits the
    development of third party tools/products.

    Question 3:

    If there is a need to standardize, should this be done in the
    IETF?

    Q3 Response:

    The IETF would be the appropriate place to perform the standardisation
    activity as it would facilitate interaction with other relevant IETF WGs,
    such as Policy WG.

    Question 4:

    Which of the following should be the deliverables of the working
    group?
    - Framework document (including architecture)
    - Protocol independent SLS information model document
    - Negotiation Requirements and Semantics document
    - Interface protocol standardization (e.g. XML/LDAP/....)
    - others ?

    Q4 Response:

    All the above seem necessary, although the Interface Protocol
    standardisation work will
    introduce some diversity. For example, providers of business services, such
    as Global Crossing, may have different protocol requirements from providers
    of entertainment services.

    Question 5:

    Would your organisation be willing to actively contribute to
    this effort ?

    Q5 Response:

    Global Crossing participates in the IST TEQUILA project, which actively
    addresses SLS requirements, and will contribute to IETF standarisation
    activities through TEQUILA.

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Raju Rajan [mailto:rajan@research.att.com]
    Sent: 09 November 2000 16:37
    To: sls@ist-tequila.org
    Subject: Issues for the BoF

    Hi all,

     Yves and I have put together a preliminary list of issues that would help
    focus the BoF, and suggest directions/guidelines for a working group. (This
    is not an exhaustive list of all technical SLS related issues; just those
    that will help define a charter and work-items.)

     It would be good if we could get some discussion on the list around these
    basic questions. Please feel free to suggest some more. Based on the
    discussion here, we will send a revised list to the speakers/participants at
    the BoF, and ask them to address some or all aspects below.

    NOTE: We're trying to get a representative group of experts, potential users
    and vendors for the BoF to help us all better understand the technical and
    commecial directions. Please contact Yves or myself with any suggestions. In
    particular, speakers with expertise in the Service Provider, carrier or
    solution provider domains would be great! (Please be understanding of time
    constraints while suggesting names.)

    Thanks,

     Raju and Yves
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    Question 1: Is there a need to standardize the syntax and semantics of QoS
    Service Level negotiation on the following interfaces.
    - intra-domain interfaces (typical example would be a softswitch interface
    towards the network management platform for automatic sizing of trunks
    between voice gateways)?
    - inter-domain interfaces for the customer-provider relationship (typical
    example would be allowing an automated VPN configuration be flexible managed
    by the customer on the provider domain) ?
    - inter-domain QoS provisioning for the provider-provider relationship
    (typical example would be to extend the above over multiple IP service
    providers)

    Question 2 : Do you see any use for it in the timeframe that a working group
    would deliver (Feb 2002)? The alternative is to leave it to each vendor to
    reach agreements with their customers, or to postpone work on this to a
    later date after 2002.

    Question 3: If there is a need to standardize, should this be done in the
    IETF?

    Question 4: Which of the following should be the deliverables of the working
    group?
    - Framework document (including architecture)
    - Protocol independent SLS information model document
    - Negotiation Requirements and Semantics document
    - Interface protocol standardization (e.g. XML/LDAP/....)
    - others ?

    Question 5: Would your organisation be willing to actively contribute to
    this effort ?

    ++++++++++++++++
    Some more technically oriented questions (answer if you feel comfortable and
    have an explicit technology choice, otherwise skip this section).

    Question 5: what should be the protocol independent data representation
    language ?
    - PCIM
    - XML
    - BNF
    - Any others?
    Please help us focus on just one or two.

    Question 6: What are the negotiation protocols that make sense in the
    environment that you chose?
    Choices: PPP, WAP, HTTP, SIP, RSVP, shared LDAP directories, COPS, ...
    Please help us focus on just one or two.

    Question 7: What negotiation model makes sense in the environment that you
    chose?
    Choices:
        Subscriber signup w/ no confirmation
        Subscriber signup with confirmation
        Provider sends menu followed subscriber signup with our without
    confirmation
        Provider sends menu followed by subscriber signup with confirmation and
    monitoring updates
       Provider sends menu followed by more complex negotiation process with
    confirmation and monitoring updates and potential re-negotiation
       Any others ...
    Again, please help us focus.

    Question 8: Which formats make sense for documentation of the syntax of
    negotiation elements?
     Choices: XML DDTs, LDAP schemata, COPS PIBs, PPP elements (?), RSVP Policy
    Elements, ...
    Focus, focus, focus ;)

    Question 9: any other comments/questions/hints ?

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