Re: [tequila/sls] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-salsano-aquila-sls-00.

From: Gabor.Fodor@era-t.ericsson.se
Date: Fri Nov 17 2000 - 00:25:38 CET

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    Hi Stefano,

    I have been enjoying reading your draft, because I think it brings
    the SLS discussion really forward. However, I would like to make the
    following two comments and would welcome some discussions on these.

    In the premium mission critical predefined SLS type, the darft
    assumes that (page 12)

    "applications are assumed to implement some kind of congestion
    control mechanism whose aggressiveness is somewhat similar to
    the one of TCP",
     
    but you are also suggesting a double token bucket traffic
    conformance testing on the peak rate and the sustainable rate.
     
    Now, while both congestion control and the double token bucket
    control make sense on their own separately, it would need to be
    further specified how the two work together.

    For instance, if it is oly the double token bucket that is used for
    policing, and the congestion control is only used to inform the user
    on the instantaneously available bandwidth in the network, then the
    user has little incentive to stick to the congestion control
    algorithm. This is because the network has no means to maintain
    fairness between 2 users behaving differently; one who respects the
    congestion control (like a TCP user would) and one that does not
    (like UDP).
     
    In fact, for similar reasons, ATM networks have introduced the
    dynamic GCRA (dynamic token bucket) for the ABR service. The dynamic
    token bucket combines the congestion control signal and the token
    bucket parameters, thereby ensuring that the token bucket is always
    adjusted to the currently available bandwidth in the network.
     
    ----
    Another issue again, (I have raised it in connection with
    the TEQUILA draft as well) is related to the service schedule
    section, where the draft introduces (quite properly !) the notion of
    start time, and end time along with the concept of admission control
    (section 3.4), but there is no mention of the blocking probability,
    which is needed in order to allow "effective admission control" and
    network dimensioning. On the other hand a user needs to have at least
    a rough indication on the expected blocking probability (we may call
    it the Grade of Service).
    -----

    Hope these comments prove to be constructive.

    Cheers /Gabor

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    > Dear all,
    >
    > here is another draft on SLSs:
    > "Definition and usage of SLSs in the AQUILA consortium"
    > it is a result of the work of the AQUILA IST project.
    >
    > It represents a positive feedback to the draft proposed
    > by TEQUILA project. The approach followed by AQUILA consortium
    > is described. The concept of "predefined SLS types" is
    > proposed in order to simplify SLS usage.
    >
    > The draft is available both on IETF directory (see below)
    > and on AQUILA URL http://www-st.inf.tu-dresden.de/aquila/
    > (follow the link to standardization activity).
    >
    > Your comments are welcome !
    >
    > Best regards,
    > Stefano
    >
    Gabor Fodor, PhD
    Ericsson Research
    Sweden



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