Re: [tequila/sls] SLS Information Model

From: John Strassner (jstrassn@cisco.com)
Date: Sun Nov 05 2000 - 07:06:32 CET

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    Comments inline.

    regards,
    John
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Yves T'Joens" <yves.tjoens@alcatel.be>
    To: <sls@ist-tequila.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 4:13 PM
    Subject: Re: [tequila/sls] SLS Information Model

    > Jim Quinn wrote:
    > >
    > > Alessandro,
    > >
    > > I think this is a good idea and with the work already
    done in Policy WG,
    > > this group should be in a position to capitalise and hit
    the ground running;
    >
    > Jim,
    >
    > You are correct in your statement that the policy group
    hosts a lot of
    > knowledgeable people on data modeling today, however, i do
    not agree
    > that any effort in protocol independent modeling of
    information should
    > automatically be dropped in the policy framework group.
    > That decision is not up to us however, and i would
    appreciate any other
    > views on this issue.

    <js>
    I agree with Yves here. The policy framework working group
    has a rather narrowly defined charter, and although this
    work should certainly take the Policy work into account and
    even reuse and/or refine it where possible, I don't think
    that it has to be shoved into the Policy wg.

    In fact, precedent exists in the form of IPsec policy, which
    is NOT being worked on in the Policy working group, but
    rather in the IPSP working group.
    >/js>

    > > bear in mind also that the creation of a schema along
    the lines of the
    > > (LDAP) PFSCHEMA should also be considered.
    >
    > I personally think multiple protocols can be used to carry
    the
    > information contained in an SLS. In fact, some while ago,
    some of us
    > submitted a draft to the IETF describing the use of
    PPP/IPCP to
    > negotiate a subset of SLS parameters that would apply to
    the link over
    > which the SLS was negotiated.
    > This effort was almost immediately blocked by some of the
    PPP gurus,
    > that directed SLS negotiation to 'another' protocol.
    > As far as LDAP is concerned, it might not be adequate to
    offer the
    > richness of negotiation required for reaching an agreement
    between
    > customer and provider. However, i would certainly not
    exclude it.

    <js>
    I agree, both with respect to the multiple protocol issue as
    well as with LDAP. Though I would note that LDAP *should* do
    just fine in distributing the information - the question is
    whether LDAP can be used to operate on (create, delete,
    edit, search, etc.) the information.
    </js>

    > cheers
    > Yves
    >
    >
    > >
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    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: Alessandro Zorer [mailto:zorer@sodalia.it]
    > > > Sent: 23 October 2000 10:26
    > > > To: sls@ist-tequila.org
    > > > Subject: [tequila/sls] SLS Information Model
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Dear all
    > > >
    > > > Is there any ongoing (or planned) effort on producing
    a SLS
    > > > Information Model?
    > > > I mean, for example, the same kind of work the Policy
    > > > Framework has done in extending the CIM/DEN model. In
    my
    > > > opinion (maybe not very smart, since i'm new to this
    subject
    > > > ;-), this could be an effective tool for representing
    SLS
    > > > concepts and their relationships with Policy, QoS etc.
    > > > I'd be very glad to know your opinion on this matter.
    > > >
    > > > Best Regards
    > > > Alessandro
    > > >
    >
    >



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